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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, and the week before. Eben Moglen on Personal Data Control This isn&#8217;t the first time I&#8217;ve listened to this speech, but this time it really clicked. Eben Moglen speaks so carefully and thoughtfully that listening to him is a real treat. I&#8217;m not even going to try to highlight his points and pick out [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, and the week before.</p>
<h3><a href="http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail1897.html">Eben Moglen on Personal Data Control</a></h3>
<p>This isn&#8217;t the first time I&#8217;ve listened to this speech, but this time it really clicked. Eben Moglen speaks so carefully and thoughtfully that listening to him is a real treat. I&#8217;m not even going to try to highlight his points and pick out quotes here. Everyone should go and listen to this talk.</p>
<h3>Other random stuff:</h3>
<ul>
<li>A new find: <a href="http://cbc.ca/spark">Spark</a> on <a href="http://cbc.ca">CBC</a>. Seems like a good mix of tech stories and interviews and the whole show is interesting and engaging. There&#8217;s a blog where you can join in, and you can also download the unedited versions of interviews. There&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.socialtext.net/spark/index.cgi?spark_wiki">wiki</a> where you can jump in and contribute to the show.</li>
<li><a href="http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail3516.html">Billy Hoffman on Ajax Security</a>. Scary security stuff. Reminds me of this <a href="http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail3359.html">panel about the darker parts of online marketing</a>.</li>
<li><a href="http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail3518.html">Phil Windley and Jon Udell on Online Reputation Frameworks</a>. This is important stuff to be thinking about. Online reputation can really follow you around: it most likely never disappears.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.tllts.org/">The Linux Link Tech Show</a>. What is there to say about this show? I hated its aimlessness at first, but they do get interesting guests, and there&#8217;s some bits of interesting conversation in between the long silences, technical problems, and background noises. The show is at least twice as long as it needs to be.</li>
<li>The <a href="http://dtrn.co.uk/">SciFi Guys</a> is interesting, lots of scifi news discussion and great guests.</li>
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		<description><![CDATA[I listen to a lot of audio during the week, much of it from The Conversations Network. Here are a few shows I found especially interesting this week. Jeff Jonas on Non-Obvious Relationship Awareness I didn&#8217;t expect to find this one so interesting (being based on casino security), but it turned out to be fascinating. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listen to a lot of audio during the week, much of it from <a href="http://conversationsnetwork.org/">The Conversations Network</a>. Here are a few shows I found especially interesting this week.</p>
<h3><a href="http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail3470.html">Jeff Jonas on Non-Obvious Relationship Awareness</a></h3>
<p>I didn&#8217;t expect to find this one so interesting (being based on casino security), but it turned out to be fascinating. Interesting similarities to <a href="http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail3312.html">this Rich Skrenta talk</a> about <a href="http://topix.net">Topix</a>.</p>
<h4>Main points:</h4>
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<li>Put all your data in one place. New correlations and ways to analyse the data will emerge.</li>
<li>With separate data spaces, you <em>will</em> miss important, valuable relations.</li>
<li>Save queries (again, in the same space) and notify of changes and updates.</li>
<li>Stored queries can connect to other queries.</li>
<li>Stream data into the system and learn and fix errors (repair history) along the way.</li>
<li>Sequence neutrality. End state is the same regardless of the order the data arrives.</li>
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<h4>Interesting quotes:</h4>
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<li>&#8220;&#8230; when you dream, you&#8217;re doing deep recontextualization &#8230; to remedy some things you actually have to go offline for.&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<h3><a href="http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail3513.html">Jon Udell interviews Stefano Mazzocchi</a></h3>
<p>Mandating coherence and structure doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<h4>Main points:</h4>
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<li>&#8220;Valid&#8221; means different things to different people and groups.</li>
<li>Imposing structure in separate realms can and does work, but designing for interoperability between realms creates all kinds of new value.</li>
<li>Just get all your data together and let structure emerge/evolve/develop.</li>
<li>Don&#8217;t throw structure away, defer it until you really know what you need.</li>
<li>RDF and graphs. I&#8217;ll admit right here that I don&#8217;t really understand these (yet <img src='http://nathanhowell.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ), but I may have to look into them more.</li>
<li>Use peer pressure and self-interest to build interesting, valuable, open data sets. It&#8217;s the only way to make this stuff happen.</li>
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<h4>Interesting quotes:</h4>
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<li>&#8220;There&#8217;s no such thing as quality of metadata.&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;&#8230; there&#8217;s that perception that coherence is quality.&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;Data first, instead of structure first.&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;Just start off, and write down whatever you want, and then you can incrementally add structure to it, and make value out of the structure as you build.&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;There&#8217;s a lot of structure in email, if you want, it just depends on what kind of structure you want to look at.&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;A lot of the semantic web research was based on the big hypothesis that was &#8216;If whatever, then we could do this.&#8217;&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;&#8230; when they show up, we can party.&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;It&#8217;s clear now that it&#8217;s all about data and loose pieces connected together than it is about uber ontologies &#8230;&#8221;</li>
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<h3><a href="http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail3510.html">Scott Kveton on OpenID</a></h3>
<p>Nice overview of open web/social stuff like <a href="http://openid.net/">OpenID</a>, <a href="http://oauth.net/">OAuth</a> and <a href="http://diso-project.org/">DiSo</a>.</p>
<h4>Main points:</h4>
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<li>Keep things really simple to start. Just get basics working so we can build on them.</li>
<li>The potential of OpenID endpoints for service discovery. I hadn&#8217;t thought about this, but it&#8217;s really obvious once you hear it.</li>
<li>These technologies are actually great for big companies. They can make use of them without having to be the initiator and deal with the suspicion and other associated problems</li>
<li>OpenID takes a big load off of developers by handling their whole authentication system for them.</li>
<li>Interesting balance between design-by-committee and just-build-some-stuff with <a href="http://dataportability.org/">DataPortability</a> and DiSo.</li>
<li>Keep things loosely joined. Don&#8217;t depend on one tech for a task, make it all swappable.</li>
<li>Being the repository for &#8220;master profiles&#8221; is valuable.</li>
<li>Focus on people who already get it (to whatever degree), and build momentum. You can&#8217;t convince other people without that base.</li>
<li>Building a personal reputation based on trust of opinions and knowledge is extremely valuable.</li>
<li>Monetizing too early can be dangerously limiting. Tough balance.</li>
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<h4>Interesting quotes:</h4>
<ul>
<li>&#8220;Simple usually wins in the long term.&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;Help people discover new things.&#8221;</li>
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<p>There&#8217;s definitely a theme there. Some other stuff:</p>
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<li><a href="http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail3504.html">Jon Udell interviews Fernanda Viegas &amp; Martin Wattenberg</a> about <a href="http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/home">Many Eyes</a>, an interesting social data visualization project.</li>
<li><a href="http://whedonesque.com/">Whedonesque</a> reported that <a href="http://www.josswhedon.net/">Joss Whedon</a> would be on the <a href="http://www.geekson.com">GeeksOn</a> podcast. <a href="http://www.geekson.com/archives/archiveepisodes/2008/episode88.htm">And he was</a>. I checked out a couple of other episodes as well, and it seems like a really interesting, well done podcast. I&#8217;ll keep listening.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.brianoberkirch.com/2007/12/14/podcast-chris-messina-on-diso/">Chris Messina on DiSo</a> is a nice introduction to the <a href="http://diso-project.org/">DiSo project</a>.</li>
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